Wednesday, June 23, 2010
Some politicians under foreign influence: CSIS
Some politicians under foreign influence: CSIS
Last Updated: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 | 10:28 PM ET Comments398Recommend214
CBC News
Richard Fadden, the director of the Canadian Security Intelligence Service, is interviewed by the CBC's Peter Mansbridge.Richard Fadden, the director of the Canadian Security Intelligence Service, is interviewed by the CBC's Peter Mansbridge. (CBC)
Canada's spy agency suspects cabinet ministers in two provinces are under the control of foreign governments, CBC News has learned.
Several members of B.C. municipal governments are also under suspicion, Richard Fadden, the director of the Canadian Security Intelligence Service, told CBC News in an exclusive interview.
"We're in fact a bit worried in a couple of provinces that we have an indication that there's some political figures who have developed quite an attachment to foreign countries," Fadden said.
At least five countries are surreptitiously recruiting future political prospects in universities, with China acting the most aggressively, he said. But Middle East countries are also involved.
"A number of countries take the view that if they can develop influence with people relatively early in their careers, they'll follow them through," Fadden said. "Before you know it a country is providing them with money, there's some sort of covert guidance."
Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/politics/story/2010/06/22/spying-csis.html#ixzz0reCQrHsb
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In the vastness of the internet, some news articles have a habit of mysteriously vanishing , never to be seen again. So I'm just going to clip this one and hang onto it , if you don't mind too much. It's down played here, but it's a pretty outragous accusation. If it wasn't CSIS making these accusations, I would probably ignore it as part of the tin foil hat crowd , but since it isn't ...
Why I love my Wind Phone
Article = none, personal experience
Make and model : Huawei U1250 vs Samsung m610
The Samsung phone , which I got from Bell 3 years ago and just termiated , has the ability to take pictures, play music, and of course , make phone calls. This is common to both phones.
Price
The Samsung cost 325$ (full price) or 100$ and a 3 year contract. The Huawei was the cheapest lowest bottom of the line Wind had and cost me 70$ + tax , no contract. (Wind has no contracts)
Play Music
The Samsung has an annoying "universal" jack on the side that will accept the power cable for recharging , the data cable for loading up tunes from your computer ,and the head phone for playing music. The jack broke within the first 2 months, and took them 4 months of trial and error to eventually fix. During which I had to pay bell their monthly fee despite not having my phone. They pointed to the distributer (wirelesswave) and said it was their problem.
After which , I had to be careful to use the jack only for power because thanks to their four month delay I was now out of warrenty and it would cost me a fortune to fix it a second time. Barring spending 120$ for a blue tooth head set that could play music , my music phone suddenly no longer played music. I bought a cheap40$ mp3 player and 20$ ear plugs and counted myself lucky.
The Huawei has a standard jack on the top , the kind on your stereo , your mp3 player, any random electronic device. I was able to take my store bought earplugs and plug them in and they worked just fine. I was also able to take the 1 gig memory chip from the old Samsung and put it in the Huawei and it even read the songs that were on it.
The jack for connecting to the computer was the standard "small" usb cable , and it came with such a cable (I now have 3 identical such cables, they all work , so I know it's some kind of standard) and it automaticaly installed (under WinXP) and I was able to delete the old tunes and put in new ones with little fuss.
No Connection
The Bell phone (Samsung) would try to connect when I was in a dead zone , like the hospital, and it was totally useless without such a connection. It wouldn't tell you the time of day , play music , nothing. Basically if Bell cut you off your phone died.
The Wind phone (Huawei) after I phoned up wasn't active for the first hour. During which it would happily play tunes from the memory card and tell me the (admittedly wrong) time. So if I cancel my Wind account , my phones mp3 abilites are unaffected.
Internet
Bell refuses to block the internet. No way , no how , no helping you sabatage the settings so it won't actually connect , and you buy the 7$ / month internet plan (which is useless on the phone) or it's 50$ / megabyte. And if you're near the end of contract and ask to remove the internet feature because you're going to just pull the battery and dump the thing ? They tack on 11 months to your contract if you change any features. So don't bother.
Wind happily blocked the internet from their end. No charge.
Texting
Both wind and Bell blocked texting from their phones. Bell tried to do a sales job on you , but in the end if you insisted they would block it anyways.
I attribute this more to one of our previous prime ministers getting hot and bothered under the collar and saying nasties about texting to all phone providers , than I do to the policies of any particular company.
Monthly Charges
Bell wanted 30$ / month for voice 400 minutes, +7$ / month for internet that was totally useless that they basically extorted from me under threat of 50$ /megabyte data charges if I didn't put that feature on, and 11 month contract renewal if I tried to take it off.
Wind wants 35$ / month unlimited voice. There's a deal for half off before the end of june , but I'm not really counting breif specials since both companies have them. Paid in advance and if I get into trouble they'll just shut the phone off during the periods I can't afford it, rather than racking up the charges.
Contract
Bell demandes a three year contract , and buried way deep in it is a clause that says they can change their mind any time they like and you are stuck with it. You don't get to say "thats not what I signed up for !". This comes into importance when they try to save you from leaving and going off to some other company by promising you outragous things. I worked in a call center and I had such calls all the time. The "Save" department never left any notes about such deals , and so the customer was generally stuck in another 3 year contract with no real savings or bonus at all.
(Rogers has a similar contract clause, by the way)
Wind has no contracts.
Conclusion :
Wind Mobile wins hands down . Why ? Policy. They don't try and gouge you every time you turn around. Bell does. Monthly prices are similar (Bell lowered them drastically to come close to wind) but the aggrivation factor makes all the difference in the world.
Make and model : Huawei U1250 vs Samsung m610
The Samsung phone , which I got from Bell 3 years ago and just termiated , has the ability to take pictures, play music, and of course , make phone calls. This is common to both phones.
Price
The Samsung cost 325$ (full price) or 100$ and a 3 year contract. The Huawei was the cheapest lowest bottom of the line Wind had and cost me 70$ + tax , no contract. (Wind has no contracts)
Play Music
The Samsung has an annoying "universal" jack on the side that will accept the power cable for recharging , the data cable for loading up tunes from your computer ,and the head phone for playing music. The jack broke within the first 2 months, and took them 4 months of trial and error to eventually fix. During which I had to pay bell their monthly fee despite not having my phone. They pointed to the distributer (wirelesswave) and said it was their problem.
After which , I had to be careful to use the jack only for power because thanks to their four month delay I was now out of warrenty and it would cost me a fortune to fix it a second time. Barring spending 120$ for a blue tooth head set that could play music , my music phone suddenly no longer played music. I bought a cheap40$ mp3 player and 20$ ear plugs and counted myself lucky.
The Huawei has a standard jack on the top , the kind on your stereo , your mp3 player, any random electronic device. I was able to take my store bought earplugs and plug them in and they worked just fine. I was also able to take the 1 gig memory chip from the old Samsung and put it in the Huawei and it even read the songs that were on it.
The jack for connecting to the computer was the standard "small" usb cable , and it came with such a cable (I now have 3 identical such cables, they all work , so I know it's some kind of standard) and it automaticaly installed (under WinXP) and I was able to delete the old tunes and put in new ones with little fuss.
No Connection
The Bell phone (Samsung) would try to connect when I was in a dead zone , like the hospital, and it was totally useless without such a connection. It wouldn't tell you the time of day , play music , nothing. Basically if Bell cut you off your phone died.
The Wind phone (Huawei) after I phoned up wasn't active for the first hour. During which it would happily play tunes from the memory card and tell me the (admittedly wrong) time. So if I cancel my Wind account , my phones mp3 abilites are unaffected.
Internet
Bell refuses to block the internet. No way , no how , no helping you sabatage the settings so it won't actually connect , and you buy the 7$ / month internet plan (which is useless on the phone) or it's 50$ / megabyte. And if you're near the end of contract and ask to remove the internet feature because you're going to just pull the battery and dump the thing ? They tack on 11 months to your contract if you change any features. So don't bother.
Wind happily blocked the internet from their end. No charge.
Texting
Both wind and Bell blocked texting from their phones. Bell tried to do a sales job on you , but in the end if you insisted they would block it anyways.
I attribute this more to one of our previous prime ministers getting hot and bothered under the collar and saying nasties about texting to all phone providers , than I do to the policies of any particular company.
Monthly Charges
Bell wanted 30$ / month for voice 400 minutes, +7$ / month for internet that was totally useless that they basically extorted from me under threat of 50$ /megabyte data charges if I didn't put that feature on, and 11 month contract renewal if I tried to take it off.
Wind wants 35$ / month unlimited voice. There's a deal for half off before the end of june , but I'm not really counting breif specials since both companies have them. Paid in advance and if I get into trouble they'll just shut the phone off during the periods I can't afford it, rather than racking up the charges.
Contract
Bell demandes a three year contract , and buried way deep in it is a clause that says they can change their mind any time they like and you are stuck with it. You don't get to say "thats not what I signed up for !". This comes into importance when they try to save you from leaving and going off to some other company by promising you outragous things. I worked in a call center and I had such calls all the time. The "Save" department never left any notes about such deals , and so the customer was generally stuck in another 3 year contract with no real savings or bonus at all.
(Rogers has a similar contract clause, by the way)
Wind has no contracts.
Conclusion :
Wind Mobile wins hands down . Why ? Policy. They don't try and gouge you every time you turn around. Bell does. Monthly prices are similar (Bell lowered them drastically to come close to wind) but the aggrivation factor makes all the difference in the world.
Thursday, June 17, 2010
Harper says Air India inquiry report a 'damning indictment'
article
Prime Minister Stephen Harper, right, talks Malcolm Edwards, Shipra Rana and Monique Castonguay, members of the Air India Victims Families Association, in his office on Parliament Hill Thursday following the release of the final inquiry report on the 1985 terrorist attack. THE CANADIAN PRESS/Sean Kilpatrick
Four years and 200 witnesses later, Justice John Major concludes a long-sought federal inquiry into the 1985 terrorist attack with a massive report that finds systemic failures and errors by Canada’s police and intelligence agencies...
Thank you for stalling this matter for TWENTY FIVE YEARS so that we can see that the guys in charge of our police long long ago were incompetant twerps but it's too late to do anything about it because they're all retired and some of them have even died of old age by now.
The usefulness of a 25 year old inquiry cannot be understated, because there is no understatement that can describe "less than useless" or "total and complete waste of time".
The Canadian government appreciates you letting them jerk you around for decades and generally doing nothing about this.
Thank you and good night.
Prime Minister Stephen Harper, right, talks Malcolm Edwards, Shipra Rana and Monique Castonguay, members of the Air India Victims Families Association, in his office on Parliament Hill Thursday following the release of the final inquiry report on the 1985 terrorist attack. THE CANADIAN PRESS/Sean Kilpatrick
Four years and 200 witnesses later, Justice John Major concludes a long-sought federal inquiry into the 1985 terrorist attack with a massive report that finds systemic failures and errors by Canada’s police and intelligence agencies...
Thank you for stalling this matter for TWENTY FIVE YEARS so that we can see that the guys in charge of our police long long ago were incompetant twerps but it's too late to do anything about it because they're all retired and some of them have even died of old age by now.
The usefulness of a 25 year old inquiry cannot be understated, because there is no understatement that can describe "less than useless" or "total and complete waste of time".
The Canadian government appreciates you letting them jerk you around for decades and generally doing nothing about this.
Thank you and good night.
Tuesday, June 08, 2010
Torn Memories of Nanjing
Japanese vets admit on film to Nanjing atrocities
Activist Tamaki Matsuoka is challenging Japanese perceptions of the country's war record with a new documentary on the atrocities known as the Rape of Nanking.
Her film, Torn Memories of Nanjing, combines the memories of Japanese war veterans with accounts by Chinese survivors of the massacres of 1937-38, after Japan captured the former capital city of Nanking.
About 1950 a funny thing was invented. It was called The Pill , and it was a reliable form of birth control.
This had a significant impact on world history. Why ? Because before The Pill the only way to pare off the population and make sure they don't explode beyond their food supply and kill everyone , was to go to war with your neibour and get all your young men (and theirs) killed off.
It became a bit of a sport , european nations actually held "summer wars" on a schedule and everything. Regular paring off of the population was good for the nation.
Whenever I hear about the atrocities and evil things done in world war 2 and before , I can't help but think. We were a different race then. War was actually the only path to racial survival. It wasn't very nice, but it was a fact of life. Death was a fact of life.
But not anymore.
The varying atrocities of world war two and before are not on the germans hands or on the japanese hands. The blood is on all our hands. All nations did it. The only way to be a nation was to do it.
The past belongs in a history book. Interesting read, but the current generation wasn't even born when those events occured. And we certainly didn't live under the shadow of the choices those people faced, and the rather nasty reality they had to deal with every day of their lives.
Don't spit on the guys grave until you walk a mile in his shoes. That's all I'm saying.
Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/arts/film/story/2010/03/31/nanjing-documentary.html?ref=rss&loomia_si=t0:a16:g4:r2:c0:b0#ixzz0qHYMjVCg
Activist Tamaki Matsuoka is challenging Japanese perceptions of the country's war record with a new documentary on the atrocities known as the Rape of Nanking.
Her film, Torn Memories of Nanjing, combines the memories of Japanese war veterans with accounts by Chinese survivors of the massacres of 1937-38, after Japan captured the former capital city of Nanking.
About 1950 a funny thing was invented. It was called The Pill , and it was a reliable form of birth control.
This had a significant impact on world history. Why ? Because before The Pill the only way to pare off the population and make sure they don't explode beyond their food supply and kill everyone , was to go to war with your neibour and get all your young men (and theirs) killed off.
It became a bit of a sport , european nations actually held "summer wars" on a schedule and everything. Regular paring off of the population was good for the nation.
Whenever I hear about the atrocities and evil things done in world war 2 and before , I can't help but think. We were a different race then. War was actually the only path to racial survival. It wasn't very nice, but it was a fact of life. Death was a fact of life.
But not anymore.
The varying atrocities of world war two and before are not on the germans hands or on the japanese hands. The blood is on all our hands. All nations did it. The only way to be a nation was to do it.
The past belongs in a history book. Interesting read, but the current generation wasn't even born when those events occured. And we certainly didn't live under the shadow of the choices those people faced, and the rather nasty reality they had to deal with every day of their lives.
Don't spit on the guys grave until you walk a mile in his shoes. That's all I'm saying.
Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/arts/film/story/2010/03/31/nanjing-documentary.html?ref=rss&loomia_si=t0:a16:g4:r2:c0:b0#ixzz0qHYMjVCg
Thursday, June 03, 2010
New credit cards pose security problem
Article
Most newly issued credit cards pose major fraud and privacy concerns because of how they're designed to be scanned through the air, some cyber-security experts warn.
"Contactless" MasterCards and Visa cards have been available in Canada for several years, but they've only recently reached the bulk of consumers as the country's biggest banks adopt them.
The credit cards have an embedded computer chip called a radio frequency identification, or RFID, tag. When waved near a payment terminal in a store, the chip supplies the card's number and expiry date through radio waves, avoiding the need to swipe or insert the card or have a cashier handle it.
'It's not encrypted, which is not what we were expecting.'—IT security expert Pablos Holman
And that's the first problem, U.S. cyber-security expert Pablos Holman says.
Anyone can buy an RFID credit card reader online, where second-hand units sometimes sell for under $10, and start scanning cards in public — without cardholders knowing.
WHAT ????
You mean some turkey can just bump into me on a crowded bus with a back pack with a scanner hidden inside , scan my credit card, and next thing I know the dang thing has been racked up ?
One of the comments to the article suggests tin foil in the wallet.
Since you're not supposed to put tinfoil in the microwave because it messes the thing up , and microwave cooks by "micrwoaves" (radio waves) , seems a reasonable precaution.
quick ! Where's the tin foil !
No , not for my head ! For my wallet !
Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2010/05/31/f-rfid-credit-cards-security-concerns.html#socialcomments#ixzz0poLQk9zQ
Most newly issued credit cards pose major fraud and privacy concerns because of how they're designed to be scanned through the air, some cyber-security experts warn.
"Contactless" MasterCards and Visa cards have been available in Canada for several years, but they've only recently reached the bulk of consumers as the country's biggest banks adopt them.
The credit cards have an embedded computer chip called a radio frequency identification, or RFID, tag. When waved near a payment terminal in a store, the chip supplies the card's number and expiry date through radio waves, avoiding the need to swipe or insert the card or have a cashier handle it.
'It's not encrypted, which is not what we were expecting.'—IT security expert Pablos Holman
And that's the first problem, U.S. cyber-security expert Pablos Holman says.
Anyone can buy an RFID credit card reader online, where second-hand units sometimes sell for under $10, and start scanning cards in public — without cardholders knowing.
WHAT ????
You mean some turkey can just bump into me on a crowded bus with a back pack with a scanner hidden inside , scan my credit card, and next thing I know the dang thing has been racked up ?
One of the comments to the article suggests tin foil in the wallet.
Since you're not supposed to put tinfoil in the microwave because it messes the thing up , and microwave cooks by "micrwoaves" (radio waves) , seems a reasonable precaution.
quick ! Where's the tin foil !
No , not for my head ! For my wallet !
Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2010/05/31/f-rfid-credit-cards-security-concerns.html#socialcomments#ixzz0poLQk9zQ
Google dumps Windows. But can the rest of us?
Article
According to the Financial Times, Google is in the midst of replacing all of its Windows-based desktop PCs with ones that run Mac or Linux, citing security concerns since the company was a target of a hack originating in China back in January of 2010.
This may be something of a shock to everyone, but Google has never really been completely reliant on the Windows platform, so this is a pretty easy “fix” for the company.
Now why wouldn't you be using windows ?
Oh yes ! You're in competition with them (microsoft) ! ha ha ha !!
Or their search engine business.
So ..they have an operating business, a search engine business, a database business, a compiler business, a game business...umm..exactly what , when it comes to computers , do they not have ?
Hmm...
You know , I think that non windows platforms are going to be come really popular shortly , since you now have to get off of windows in order not to compete with microsoft, but simply to stay in business.
The capitalists realize the evil of monopolies. This is born by their actions. Monopolies are what you impose on someone else, not what you suffer.
:)
Wednesday, June 02, 2010
You Have just won .. "Click"
Ontario man bilked of $150,000 in email scam
Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2009/01/14/email-scam.html?ref=rss&loomia_si=t0:a16:g4:r5:c0:b0#ixzz0piOzRctQ
A southern Ontario man says he now owes his friends and family $150,000 after international email scam artists bilked him of the funds by convincing him he was about to inherit a fortune.
Let me educate you on proper protocal when receiving corospondance from total strangers.
"You have just one ..." Click ! Hang up the phone.
"Dear Mr Uttawa Bud , I have found your Blug a Fascinating Read but I wood like to interest you in an issue of sum concearn to me. My Uncle who lives in Somalia has inherited a fotune but needs to move it out of the country quickly before ... " Delete !
Ring Ring ? "Mr Ottawa Boy ? My name is Joyce , please stand by while I transfer you to Marlene " Click ! (Joyce is a computer doing cold calls..the tip off is she doesn't let you get a word in edgewise so you usually don't catch on she's a recording..usually is good enough for a telemarketter)
Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2009/01/14/email-scam.html?ref=rss&loomia_si=t0:a16:g4:r5:c0:b0#ixzz0piOpWviE
Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2009/01/14/email-scam.html?ref=rss&loomia_si=t0:a16:g4:r5:c0:b0#ixzz0piOzRctQ
A southern Ontario man says he now owes his friends and family $150,000 after international email scam artists bilked him of the funds by convincing him he was about to inherit a fortune.
Let me educate you on proper protocal when receiving corospondance from total strangers.
"You have just one ..." Click ! Hang up the phone.
"Dear Mr Uttawa Bud , I have found your Blug a Fascinating Read but I wood like to interest you in an issue of sum concearn to me. My Uncle who lives in Somalia has inherited a fotune but needs to move it out of the country quickly before ... " Delete !
Ring Ring ? "Mr Ottawa Boy ? My name is Joyce , please stand by while I transfer you to Marlene " Click ! (Joyce is a computer doing cold calls..the tip off is she doesn't let you get a word in edgewise so you usually don't catch on she's a recording..usually is good enough for a telemarketter)
Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2009/01/14/email-scam.html?ref=rss&loomia_si=t0:a16:g4:r5:c0:b0#ixzz0piOpWviE
Tuesday, June 01, 2010
Your conference is now my conference
Stronach aims to put girls, women on G20 agenda
A group of young women from G20 countries will meet in Toronto later this month, with the intent of putting the concerns of girls and women squarely in the spotlight.
A young group of woman have decided to crash a conference of bankers and financial leaders in order to make a publicity stunts o they can have ... what .. votes for women ? They already that. Treat all women in the world by western standards ? Umm..not gonna work. Most dictators would rather shoot them.
but the point is ... why are you bothering a bevy of bankers for this balderdash ?
I have decided I'm starting a new political party. It will be the Free Beer on Friday Political Party. And I"m going to raise awareness of it by bashing some conference or another. OH here's one... Plumbers Technical Standards Association ...thats a good one. Lets crash the plumbers conference so we can advertise a politicial party !
Dumb dumb dumb.
Even worse. The Plumbers won't be holding their conference in town anymore. It draws too much radical attention. In fact no one will hold a conference in this berg anyomre because hey , if you're gonna crash teir party , you're gonna crash anyones, right ?
A group of young women from G20 countries will meet in Toronto later this month, with the intent of putting the concerns of girls and women squarely in the spotlight.
A young group of woman have decided to crash a conference of bankers and financial leaders in order to make a publicity stunts o they can have ... what .. votes for women ? They already that. Treat all women in the world by western standards ? Umm..not gonna work. Most dictators would rather shoot them.
but the point is ... why are you bothering a bevy of bankers for this balderdash ?
I have decided I'm starting a new political party. It will be the Free Beer on Friday Political Party. And I"m going to raise awareness of it by bashing some conference or another. OH here's one... Plumbers Technical Standards Association ...thats a good one. Lets crash the plumbers conference so we can advertise a politicial party !
Dumb dumb dumb.
Even worse. The Plumbers won't be holding their conference in town anymore. It draws too much radical attention. In fact no one will hold a conference in this berg anyomre because hey , if you're gonna crash teir party , you're gonna crash anyones, right ?
Bad Propaganda
Witnesses cast doubt on Israel's convoy raid account
"Personally I saw two-and-a-half wooden batons that were used... There was really nothing else. We never saw any knives.
"This was an attack in international waters on a peaceful mission... This was a clear act of piracy," he added.
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The pictures, from Arabic TV, showed the campaigners in a jubilant mood. One said she was determined either to get to Gaza or to die a martyr.
You know what I hate worse than propaganda ?
Bad propaganda. Propaganda where people obviously believe they just have to go down this recipie and then they're golden, and no one will challenge them.
Propaganda like , say organizing a peaceful outing to bring food to the Gaza Strip , and starting all this peace and goodness with a rousing round of chanting "DEATH TO MY ENEMIES" and swearing you'll get there or die.
Propaganda like saying there's no weapons on these peaceful ships, just really big sticks. And oh yeah , the "unarmed" passengers , with a history of suicide bombing , rushed some armed guards in the vain hope that they'd all get shot up and it would make a nice embarrasing international incident.
Except the invaders were armed with paintball guns. Painful .. but for 680 people 9 casualties is pretty low.
And hten of course you get to accuse the invaders of being pirates, despte the fact that you started this whole "peaceful protest" with a bunch of chants about how you were going to kill them.
Yep. You managed to hit every point on the peaceful protest list.
And a few extra that make you look like a donkeys behind.
I have no sympathies for protesters that want to kill people. I really don't care how "peaceful" they think they are , they still want people dead, they aint peaceful.
"Personally I saw two-and-a-half wooden batons that were used... There was really nothing else. We never saw any knives.
"This was an attack in international waters on a peaceful mission... This was a clear act of piracy," he added.
.
.
.
The pictures, from Arabic TV, showed the campaigners in a jubilant mood. One said she was determined either to get to Gaza or to die a martyr.
You know what I hate worse than propaganda ?
Bad propaganda. Propaganda where people obviously believe they just have to go down this recipie and then they're golden, and no one will challenge them.
Propaganda like , say organizing a peaceful outing to bring food to the Gaza Strip , and starting all this peace and goodness with a rousing round of chanting "DEATH TO MY ENEMIES" and swearing you'll get there or die.
Propaganda like saying there's no weapons on these peaceful ships, just really big sticks. And oh yeah , the "unarmed" passengers , with a history of suicide bombing , rushed some armed guards in the vain hope that they'd all get shot up and it would make a nice embarrasing international incident.
Except the invaders were armed with paintball guns. Painful .. but for 680 people 9 casualties is pretty low.
And hten of course you get to accuse the invaders of being pirates, despte the fact that you started this whole "peaceful protest" with a bunch of chants about how you were going to kill them.
Yep. You managed to hit every point on the peaceful protest list.
And a few extra that make you look like a donkeys behind.
I have no sympathies for protesters that want to kill people. I really don't care how "peaceful" they think they are , they still want people dead, they aint peaceful.
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